Friday, February 12, 2010

Jehovah's Witnesses & Mormans are they the only two choices of true followers of Jesus ?

Acts 10:42 orders Christians to preach.


Mathew 4:19 Jesus wants fishers of men


Mark 6:7 Jesus sends his disiples out in groups of two to teach the word.


Mathew 24:14 Jesus said the good news will be preached before the end.


As far as Christian religion goes does his narrow down the choice of the truth between JW's %26amp; Mormans ?Jehovah's Witnesses %26amp; Mormans are they the only two choices of true followers of Jesus ?
If a person chooses to take that route for reasoning on this matter, I think I can narrow it down for you even further. In Mt 24 ,Jesus said that the ';good news of the Kingdom'; would be preached in the entire inhabited earth... 'the good news of the kingdom' is what Jehovah's Witnesses preach, but the Mormons preach the doctrines of the book of Mormon... and they have a hard time explaining what God's kingdom is (not a problem for the Witnesses)





If you break it down that way, it becomes basic math ;)Jehovah's Witnesses %26amp; Mormans are they the only two choices of true followers of Jesus ?
VAL W SAID





If a person chooses to take that route for reasoning on this matter, I think I can narrow it down for you even further. In Mt 24 ,Jesus said that the ';good news of the Kingdom'; would be preached in the entire inhabited earth... 'the good news of the kingdom' is what Jehovah's Witnesses preach, but the Mormons preach the doctrines of the book of Mormon... and they have a hard time explaining what God's kingdom is (not a problem for the Witnesses)





If you break it down that way, it becomes basic math ;)


4 hours ago








Val W


Basic math shows that the Jehovah's Witnesses have more books and magazines spoon fed to them in 6 months, than the whole book of Mormon. Winesses are no different than the Mormons, both relying on men control there every move. At least the Mormons believe in education. Research the JW's History. There is a reason why your not aloud to research outside your own publications, its call information control. If it wasnt for Math 24:14, the witnesses would be no different than any other group that isolates themselves from all civilization. Kinda like the Mormon fundies that just got busted, of course Jw's dont believe in polygamy though. The WT society has self appointed themselves based on math errors. 1914 being one major problem behind Watchtower beliefs. Also explain how the trumpet blasts of revelation are refering to a series of watchtower conventions early on the the JW history????
All those claiming to be Christians have a responsibility to preach:





(2 Timothy 4:2-5 in part) .聽.聽.PREACH THE WORD, BE AT IT URGENTLY in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching. .... You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, DO [THE] WORK OF AN EVANGELIZER, fully accomplish your ministry.聽.聽.





(Matthew 28:19-20 in part) .聽.聽.GO therefore and MAKE DISCIPLES of people of all the nations, ... 聽TEACHING THEM to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. .聽.聽.





(Luke 6:46) .聽.聽.鈥淲hy, then, do YOU call me 鈥楲ord! Lord!鈥?but DO NOT DO THE THINGS I SAY?.聽.聽.





(Matthew 7:21) 鈥淣ot everyone saying to me, 鈥楲ord, Lord,鈥?will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one DOING THE WILL OF MY FATHER who is in the heavens will.聽.聽.





(1 Timothy 2:4) .聽.聽.whose will is that all sorts of men should be saved and COME TO AN ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE OF TRUTH..聽.聽.
While, these actions on their own don't certify a group as being Christian, certainly not doing as the Son of God instructed doesn't bode well for the others.





I am a Christian, one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Certainly true Christians are obedient to Christ's commands, including the command to preach and teach God's word. Another important command was that they love one another. In fact, Jesus said love would a mark of his true disciples. (John 13:34-35)
Your question seems about right...








p.s. I just hate it when an LDS says JW's are a cult...so much for the LDS being loving people....BUT its just one person... I wont judge the whole group because of one idiotic reply...(breathe)
Psalm 68:11


';Jehovah himself gives the saying; The women telling the good news are a large army.';





I've only seen LDS men knocking on doors. Where are the women?
I have had a read through your questions %26amp; i must say you ask some unusual questions.


You are on the right track.


My question is to Spartan Philosophy , your 5 year old wife ? are you a Catholic preist ?





By the way falisrm said the JW's are a cult , i don't think he has looked to deeply into his faith , it foundations are on some far out words of a con man.


I am not a JW or morman.
No, its YOUR belief that is TRUE. There are many many sects of Christianity. They all believe that Jesus Christ is your savior. They teach his word. Isn't that enough? Do YOU believe that other sects of Christianity are wrong? Is there only ONE Denomination of Christianity that IS RIGHT?
good point
The church that Christ organized had apostles, prophets, and teachers.





1 Corinthians, Chapter 12


28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.





It was run under the authority of the Melchizedek Priesthood (Hebrews 11).





The authority of God was evidenced by miracles.





Mark, Chapter 16


17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;


18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them: they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.





This authority could not be bought.





Acts, Chapter 8


19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.


20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.





Nor could it be assumed.





Hebrews, Chapter 5


4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.


5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.


6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.





The Lord called missionaries and sent them out to prepare the way.





Luke, Chapter 10


1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.





Baptism was a covenant that replaced the covenant of circumcision. It was done by immersion.





Collossians, Chapter 2


11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:


12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.





Christ's church practiced vicarious batism for the dead.





1 Corinthians, Chapter 15


29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?





There is a church like this on the Earth today. It is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.





P.S. - The classic test of a prophet is not an appeal to the scriptures - every prophet taught new things and corrected misunderstandings - the classic test of a prophet is the one taught by Christ.


A true follower of Christ does not reject prophets out of hand, or new prophecy. Christ never taught that God would permanently stop sending prophets. He intimated the opposite by explaining how to tell a true prophet from a false prophet.


Christ taught that true prophets bear good fruit. Paul contrasted the difference between bad fruit and good fruit:





';19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,


20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,


21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.


22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,


23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.'; Galatians 5





The true follower of Christ will believe what he has taught and look for the nurture of these Christian attributes to determine who is a true prophet and who is a false prophet. This is the prophetic test taught by Christ.
http://www.cbcg.org/who_what_true_christ鈥?/a>





http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/booklets/t鈥?/a>





http://www.ucg.org/booklets/CJ/
A Christian follows Christ, His teachings, and the Holy Bible, no supplement needed. I am not JW or Mormon, and try to follow Christ' principles and read my Bible daily...I'm not understanding your perception unless you yourself are a JW or Mormon.
Hmm, interesting point. Have you further investigated these religions? I think that there would be something to be gained by further investigating them and talking to missionaries from each and then praying about it to know what is true. After all, we can reason through things all day but communication with God is the one and only way to know of things of God with a surety.
Neither one in my Opinion are doing Gods word,I am a Christian and I go by what the Bible says Not the Church it's self.
Uhm are you saying that the only two religions that are true are those two...nope...both of them have doctrines that contradict the bible...
One, theres no such thing, but, if you really must believe, this is the wrong attitude.
Yep, the polygamists and the door knockers - they've got it aaaalllll figured out.
I see birds swimming by me....
Are you delusional or just not very bright?
i would never compare myself with the JW. they are the only church in the world i would call a cult.





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Are you serious? Get a grip on yourself and think about what you're saying. If someone leads a good and productive life, without hate or malice toward someone who has a different view than they do, then this person is noble no matter what god they worship or believe in.
Well it is good that you have read the bible-------now take the next step and repent of your sins-------Read only the bible and you won't go wrong!
Just another holier-than-thou, conceited follower. C'mon! Do you really believe that just one group of people (or two) has it all figured out? That is so arrogant!
My 5 year old wife agrees with you.





Of course she like all others of the cult she has been recruited into the religion by being born into it, nevermind that this country has freedom of religion, if you are born to a faithful family you do not get that choice, you are indoctrinated and brainwashed from birth and never know any different.
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