Here is the Bible verse that says you have to HATE your parents to become the TRUE disciple of Jesus ?

';If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters - yes, even his own life - he cannot be my disciple.'; -- (Luke 14:26)








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Philip Badowski breaks chainsaw while cutting up the bodies of his Christian Missionary Parents








CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. Dec 11, 2004 鈥?A college student who admitted he fatally shot his parents in their bedroom and broke a chain saw cutting up their bodies told investigators: ';GOD told me to.';





He said the killings were ';spur of the moment'; after his parents scolded him when they returned from a weeklong missionary trip to Haiti.





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.Here is the Bible verse that says you have to HATE your parents to become the TRUE disciple of Jesus ?
Lets finish what Jesus said.....You have to have your life, and take up the cross and follow him....Context is everything.......Translation..You may have to give up evert thing for your beliefs........Here is the Bible verse that says you have to HATE your parents to become the TRUE disciple of Jesus ?
using a tragedy like this to 'prove' your point only demonstrates how desperate you are to discredit God and His Scriptures. I don't understand why you bother. If you don't believe it, nobody says you have to. It's not like we're going to behead you for disbelieving! And if you're right about there being nothing awaiting after life, we should be pitied, not castigated. Perhaps you should look at your motivation for asking questions like this.
Watch 'em try to wiggle their way out of this problem.
These verses are simply saying that we should put God first. A believer's devotedness to Jesus Christ should be such that, by comparison, it looks as if everything else is hated. All terms which define affections are comparative. 鈥擩. Vernon McGee's Thru The Bible
I think maybe it's time to judge every nonbeliever because of one. Obviously, this person believes you can group everybody by one person's actions.


All you atheists who have murdered, go to that corner and let the world judge you according to that one person.





I am so amazed on how and why people like you are so willing to place one person and stereotype the rest, due to this.





Stupid. You're just looking for reasons to blast Christianity.


If it makes you happy, ten why are you so sad...
Skeptics who really want to give Jesus a black eye are fond of quoting this verse, Luke 14:26:





If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.





The subject here is the word for hate, which is the Greek miseo. Dan Barker is typical of critics when he writes:





Most Christians feel obligated to soften the face meaning of the word 'hate' to something like 'love less than me,' even though the Greek word miseo means 'hate.'


In line with this comment, skeptics will stress the meaning of the word ';hate'; and insist that the word must be read literally, and that Jesus is truly preaching hate. But in fact, the ';softening'; is correct to do -- and is perfectly in line with the context of the ancient world, and the Jewish culture in particular.





For a background on the use of extreme and hyperbolic language in the Bible, I direct the reader first to my foundational essay on this subject. Abraham Rihbany (The Syrian Christ, 98f) points to the use of ';hate'; in the Bible as an example of linguistic extreme in an Eastern culture. There is no word, he notes, for ';like'; in the Arabic tongue. ';...To us Westerners, the only word which can express and cordial inclination of approval is 'love'.'; The word is used even of casual acquaintances. Extreme language is used to express even moderate relationships.





Luke 14:26 falls into a category of ';extreme language,'; the language of absoluteness used to express a preference, and may refer to disattachment, indifference, or nonattachment without any feelings of revulsion involved. To seal this matter completely, let's look at some parallel materials which prove our point. The closest example comes from Genesis 29:30-1:





And he went in also unto Rachel, and he loved also Rachel more than Leah, and served with him yet seven other years. And when the LORD saw that Leah was hated, he opened her womb: but Rachel was barren.


Here, ';hated'; is clearly used synonymously with one who is loved less. Let it be added that if Jacob hated Leah in a literal way, it is hardly believable that he would consent to take her as his wife at all! (See also Judges 14:16 and Deut. 21:15-17.)





Now here is another example from Jesus, Luke 16:13:





No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.


Such extremes of feeling would be atypical, but the extremes are not meant to be taken literally; the point is that one master will get more dedicated labor than the other. Now let's move into some secular works with the same sort of hyperbolic language. Fitzmeyer's Lukan commentary offers this example from Poimandes 4:6:





If you do not hate your body first, O child, you will not be able to love yourself.


Would critics suppose that this teaches literal hatred of the physical body? It does not -- it emphasizes the need to give preference to the whole self before the body alone. Literal hate of the body would have us cutting it with razors or hitting it with blunt objects -- an extreme practiced in some Eastern faiths, but not among the Greeks! Here is another example from a war song in the Poetae Lyrici Graeci (see James Denney, ';The Word 'Hate' in Lk. 14:26,'; Expository Times 21, 41-42): it is said that in battle, men ';must count his own life his enemy for the honor of Sparta'; -- is this a literal hatred of one's own life being taught? No! It is emphasizing the need to make one's life secondary for Sparta's sake. Here's a final example from Epictetus 3.3.5: ';The good is preferable to every intimate relation.'; This is just a more abstract version of Luke 14:26.
What can you say...the christians are nuts..they believe in a god that is into blood offerings..talking animals...and lots of incest and murder!!
What a terrible tragedy. This college student obviously had major problems.--- The verse you quoted is taken out of context. If you read the whole chapter, you will see that Jesus was telling the desciples that they have to make a total commitment and must put serving Him first. The Bible lost a lot of the original meanings in the translating, I guess.
Matthew's gospel says the same thing except slightly different. I haven't looked into the Greek about this. It would be curious to see exactly what the meaning of the words were, but I don't feel like it right now. Maybe sometime later in the future but for now my Greek Bible is gathering dust.
that is in comparison to their love for Christ not really hating them.
this is old news its a metaphorical statement and if anyone said that god told me to kill is a very disturbed person and highly schizophrenic hearing voices and thinking and you think someone else is controlling your actions are both signs of schizophrenia now let me think what guy 1400 years ago had these symptoms?
That was not to be taken literal. It meant if your parents wanted you to do something wicked you shouldn't want to do anything to ruin your relationship with God.


During the nazi occupation they killed family members who were of certain religions. Some were turned in by other family members. It is saying that we have to serve God if even someone as close as a mother or father trys to turn us against God we should not listen.


We should love God more than these.


When Jacob said he loved Rachel and hated leah. It wasn't like the hate as it means today. It meant he loved her less.


He loved his wives, and we are to love our parents but less than we love God.
In saying this God does not mean you literally should hate them; this verse of taken out of context. It means that your love of God should be so intense and deep that it looks like hatred towards your relatives--that you should love Him soooooo much, more then anyone else.